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Installing Flash Player for FireFox under Windows 8

Well this is a bit strange, I need to install Flash for Firefox, but Windows 8 seems to be against the idea. I go to the Adobe site, download the installer, run it, but get an error about the Metafile and then my download is actually deleted.

I download the installer again, Run as Administrator, the installer starts, but it’s deleted again and I still don’t have Flash installed.

If I go to IE10, Flash is playable. What the hell is going on here?

I’ll just add this to the ever growing list of things I don’t like about Windows 8. But, there is a way to get around this – download the full Flash install.

Instead of using the Stub Installer, I downloaded the Full Install and was able to get it to work.

Go here – http://www.filehorse.com/download-flashplayer-firefox/ and click the Download button. This is the Flash Player 11.7.700.169 (Non-IE) Flash Player 11.7.700.169 (Non-IE). I don’t know why I couldn’t get this off the Adobe site, but it wasn’t working out for me. This method seems to work correctly.

Now with Firefox 20 I can play videos off of YouTube again.

This is extremely odd and frustrating.

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Is Flash Still Relevant?

I remember talking with a friend who claimed that Silverlight was going to be the demise of Adobe Flash. That was several years ago and near as I can tell Silverlight hasn’t made a dent. It’s an interesting technology that pops up from time to time but it hasn’t exactly pulled the rug out from Adobe has it?

When news first broke that the iPad wouldn’t support Flash many where aghast and horrified at the prospect. How could a device be released that didn’t support Flash? This would surely lead to chaos. The web would collapse. People wouldn’t be able to function. Dogs and cats would be living together.

Didn’t happen though. The 20+ million iPad users survived and nobody seemed to care it didn’t support Flash.

So one company can’t make a dent in Flash territory and another gets along just fine without it. Is Adobe still relevant?

For the time being yes. Flash is going to be around for awhile, but it has easily been proven that the world doesn’t run on Flash. Plenty of sites don’t use it and they do just fine. It’s also proving not everyone likes Flash – me included. I think Flash is a neat technology but my testing has proven it to be flaky and unreliable. But it can made to do some very worthwhile things so people put up with it. New technologies will replace Flash but it won’t be some closed system like Silverlight. And it will be more than just HTML 5. Just think what could have happened if Microsoft collaborated with Adobe on an enhanced format.

The reign of Flash is coming to an end. Adobe has been sitting on its laurels with PDF and Flash so I think it’s time they got on the ball and brought forth new tools and formats that are mobile ready. Tablets aren’t going away, just FYI. PDFs are readable on my iPad but hardly noteworthy. Do we need Flash on the iPad? I don’t know, do we? Does anyone?

I like Adobe, they make some really good applications. But I think they’re getting stagnant. They’re hitting the wall like Microsoft has. They need to focus on more than just the desktop and Flash in a browser. Many platforms are waiting and will soon be passing them by.

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The Beginning of the End for Flash?

Jobs has taken every opportunity to mock Flash and even flaunt the fact that the iPad won’t support it. His words have been less than kind regarding it’s security flaws and myriad of other problems. Google probably hasn’t helped much with their slow but steady conversion away from Flash in support of HTML5. They just announced a massive shift on the mobile side of YouTube so that more devices can see their videos.

It’s not great when two major players start pulling away from you, but what makes it worse is that you live to up to their bad expectations. The last couple of Flash updates have caused more problems than they’ve helped. This latest one in the 10.x series broke some major functionality and rendered a slew of videos useless. It’s a bad place to put users where they stuck on whether to upgrade and not get any videos or remain where they are and expose themselves to known security exploits.

And the odd thing is, Adobe is making huge strides when it comes to Photoshop and their other editing software, but Acrobat and Flash seemed to be plagued with problems. The security flaws seem numerous and glaring. HTML5 is all the rage and many companies are proving that it can replace Flash for a variety of functionality.

There are hundreds of millions of instances of Flash out there so for it to disappear overnight isn’t going to happen. But these mistakes are certainly chipping away at it. You can’t keep breaking things as you try to fix security issues, that just doesn’t work.

Everyone thought the world would end when iPad didn’t support Flash. Two million units later I don’t think it’s stopped many people. Most sites adapted and many more will. If anything, it just makes people choosy on the sites they do visit and if you want to be one, you need to get your site in shape.

So where does Silverlight fit into all of this? Quite frankly I don’t think it does. It’s being adopted, but it’s no more accessible on mobile devices that Flash is. Switching a site over to Silverlight is just shooting yourself in the foot. I can’t see any sane person switching from Flash to Silverlight, and there seems to be no reason to build a site from the ground up using Silverlight. You’re still alienating way too many people.

Neither one of these is mobile technologies. Flash is at a tipping point. There will be a shift away from it regardless of what Adobe does. Silverlight is far too late in the game (no surprise there) to really gain a foothold. It would take a fundamental shift in thinking from both companies (which I don’t think they will do) to keep them relevant. It’s taken awhile, but that mobile market is really starting to have an impact on that desktop market and how people view the web. It’s been a good run, but I think technologies are moving beyond Flash and Silverlight.

As an aside I just read that Adobe is jumping on the 3D bandwagon for Flash. Can someone please explain to me just what the hell’s the point of all this 3D nonsense?

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When will Adobe get off their ass and give us 64-bit Flash?

You know we’ll never be able to have 64-bit browsers until Flash goes 64-bit, so Adobe needs to get on the ball and stop holding us all back. Everyone is finally ditching IE6, so it’s time to get Flash updated too. Although just removing Flash altogether and converting everything to HTML 5 would be fine with me too. Seems Adobe has some work to do before their relevance begins to wane just like Microsoft’s.

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